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23 Jan 2018, 5:05 am

Sometimes, though, I wonder if I really was actually born with Asperger Syndrome? Looking back on my sad and sorrowful life, I am beginning to suspect it may, indeed, have been trauma induced. It is something to seriously think about, too. Of course, nobody actually believes Homosexuals are really born that way, now do they? I wonder!



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23 Jan 2018, 5:37 am

Are you talking about brain trauma affecting your neurology?



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23 Jan 2018, 6:55 am

I think what he's asking is, "was he born with AS, or did psychological trauma cause it?".


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23 Jan 2018, 7:45 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
I think what he's asking is, "was he born with AS, or did psychological trauma cause it?".

Yes, that is my question exactly. Perhaps, it is not so much that children are teased for having Asperger Syndrome, but rather develop Asperger Syndrome from being teased to often. Personally, I suspect, the latter is the case.



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23 Jan 2018, 8:04 am

This is a nature vs nurture question.

Psychological trauma does not alter the brain's hardwire that I know of. Truma to the brain itself might maybe in therory affect brain structure to cause autism or autistic-like neurology.

Autism is a neurological hardwire malfunction issue like cerebral palsy or epilepsy.

However I believe psychological trauma can exacerbate autistic traits such as being withdrawn etc.



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23 Jan 2018, 8:20 am

EzraS wrote:
Psychological trauma does not alter the brain's hardwire that I know of. Truma to the brain itself might maybe in therory affect brain structure to cause autism or autistic-like neurology.

But autism is a neurological hardwire malfunction issue like cerebral palsy or epilepsy.

Ah, but is Asperger Syndrome really a form of Autism?



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23 Jan 2018, 8:22 am

TwinRuler wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Psychological trauma does not alter the brain's hardwire that I know of. Truma to the brain itself might maybe in therory affect brain structure to cause autism or autistic-like neurology.

But autism is a neurological hardwire malfunction issue like cerebral palsy or epilepsy.

Ah, but is Asperger Syndrome really a form of Autism?


Aspergers is autism period. High functioning level 1 autism.



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23 Jan 2018, 9:12 am

Usually, not always.

And some Level One people have classic autism, rather than Aspergers



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23 Jan 2018, 9:40 am

By and large, I would say that the vast majority of people with autism are born with at least a predisposition towards it.



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23 Jan 2018, 11:12 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Usually, not always.

And some Level One people have classic autism, rather than Aspergers


As far as I'm concerned that was only a technicality involving speech delay. Kanner's (classic) and Asperger's definitions are a throwback to when the spectrum wasn't fully understood.



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23 Jan 2018, 11:15 am

I've known people who I see as "Level One" who seem more blatantly "autistic" than Aspergians usually seem. Their is no doubt as to their autism.



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23 Jan 2018, 11:20 am

EzraS wrote:
This is a nature vs nurture question.

Psychological trauma does not alter the brain's hardwire that I know of. Truma to the brain itself might maybe in therory affect brain structure to cause autism or autistic-like neurology.

Autism is a neurological hardwire malfunction issue like cerebral palsy or epilepsy.

However I believe psychological trauma can exacerbate autistic traits such as being withdrawn etc.



Autism has no biological definition yet.

So far, it is just a psychiatric diagnosis.



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23 Jan 2018, 11:26 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Usually, not always.

And some Level One people have classic autism, rather than Aspergers


That's likely a matter of how they were diagnosed. DSM-5 lumps them all together, DSM-4 split ASD into multiple varieties with essentially synonymous diagnostic criteria. If two people have the same symptom set and different diagnoses, do they actually have something different, or the same thing being labelled differently?


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23 Jan 2018, 11:28 am

I'd have to actually see the two people, and be a diagnostician, to determine the answer to your question.



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23 Jan 2018, 11:35 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I'd have to actually see the two people, and be a diagnostician, to determine the answer to your question.


It's only a hypothetical. That's the only way they can be exactly identical except for the label.


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23 Jan 2018, 2:42 pm

Many people are born many "ways." Many of which puts people under a disadvantage (at first).

However, many people have been able to either overcome this "disadvantage" which they were born with, or even use the "disadvantage" to their "advantage."