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27 Feb 2015, 8:35 am

I got diagnosed as a sadist recently but the diagnosis weren't very accurate because there were possiblilities that I have anger issues instead, but I think both are similar somehow
Was anyone else here ever diagnosed as a sadist??



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27 Feb 2015, 9:27 am

Recently? That's strange. It was removed from the DSM years ago, and was only ever in there for research purposes.



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27 Feb 2015, 10:23 am

Do you think you are a sadist?

That is an incredibly harmful label to put on someone if it isn't accurate. Do you like the label? I think a true sadist would like the label...



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27 Feb 2015, 11:15 am

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Recently? That's strange. It was removed from the DSM years ago, and was only ever in there for research purposes.

When I was talking about myself because I thought I had psycho tendencies the counselor said I'm sadistic, angry, full of hate, detached.
heavenlyabyss wrote:
Do you think you are a sadist?

That is an incredibly harmful label to put on someone if it isn't accurate. Do you like the label? I think a true sadist would like the label...

I kinda like it because its part of who I am but I wouldn't mind it going away.
I think I am because I feel pleasure after hurting something like a plant or insects or people or animals, I used to keep killing ants and bugs for no reason and sometimes laugh at it and didn't realize its wrong until few days ago I did it at school and a friend saw me and shouted at me for doing it and said that I'm evil, those days I have been having thoughts of twisting a cat's neck, always liked punching people, I like the sound of bones breaking or an insect crushed, felt happy when my brother's pet died and found it pleasurable looking at the animal's dead body, wanted to put a ketchup on an ant I nearly killed because I thought it would be fun or nice to see it struggling under it. Now I realize those things are bad and evil and might make me turn into a serial killer or a criminal one day so I would never do them again but that doesn't take away the pleasure I get when I see those things happen, example: I like seeing ants attacking a bug or eating away its dead body or an animal's.



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27 Feb 2015, 4:45 pm

Zajie wrote:
ToughDiamond wrote:
Recently? That's strange. It was removed from the DSM years ago, and was only ever in there for research purposes.

When I was talking about myself because I thought I had psycho tendencies the counselor said I'm sadistic, angry, full of hate, detached.

OK, I thought you meant they'd given you an actual diagnosis. Hope it gets better.



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27 Feb 2015, 4:56 pm

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Zajie wrote:
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Recently? That's strange. It was removed from the DSM years ago, and was only ever in there for research purposes.

When I was talking about myself because I thought I had psycho tendencies the counselor said I'm sadistic, angry, full of hate, detached.

OK, I thought you meant they'd given you an actual diagnosis. Hope it gets better.

No it wasn't actual diagnosis and I didn't find a word that fits the description so I called it diagnosis lol. Thank you, I'm working on getting out of this, its better since I realized.



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28 Feb 2015, 2:26 am

Zajie wrote:
When I was talking about myself because I thought I had psycho tendencies the counselor said I'm sadistic, angry, full of hate, detached.



There is a critical difference between actual psychopathy and simulated detachment.
Years later the psychopath will have no problem sleeping at night,
but the person with detachment will have very serious problems.
Please get them to help you out of this so you can avoid the damage to yourself.



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28 Feb 2015, 3:11 am

I knew someone like that as a kid. Liked to squash bugs and stuff. He was fascinated with it. I thought it was odd. Looking back, I realize this was unusual behavior. The funny thing is we kill insects all the time. Most of us don't give a second thought to it. Doesn't make it right. There's a difference though if you are actually getting enjoyment out of it.

And don't mess with cats! I'm saying this not just because I like cats but because there is a hierarchy. Doesn't mean this hierarchy is correct but you'll go to jail for abusing a cat or a dog. You won't go to jail for squashing a bug. Yeah, don't do it.

I suspect this kid I know had problems in the family. His parents were odd.

That's good you are getting help. You certainly don't want to end up in prison when you get older.



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28 Feb 2015, 4:00 am

olympiadis wrote:
Zajie wrote:
When I was talking about myself because I thought I had psycho tendencies the counselor said I'm sadistic, angry, full of hate, detached.



There is a critical difference between actual psychopathy and simulated detachment.
Years later the psychopath will have no problem sleeping at night,
but the person with detachment will have very serious problems.
Please get them to help you out of this so you can avoid the damage to yourself.

I know, I already feel guilty for what I did to insects

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I knew someone like that as a kid. Liked to squash bugs and stuff. He was fascinated with it. I thought it was odd. Looking back, I realize this was unusual behavior. The funny thing is we kill insects all the time. Most of us don't give a second thought to it. Doesn't make it right. There's a difference though if you are actually getting enjoyment out of it.

And don't mess with cats! I'm saying this not just because I like cats but because there is a hierarchy. Doesn't mean this hierarchy is correct but you'll go to jail for abusing a cat or a dog. You won't go to jail for squashing a bug. Yeah, don't do it.

I suspect this kid I know had problems in the family. His parents were odd.

That's good you are getting help. You certainly don't want to end up in prison when you get older.


I know I won't hurt bugs now too because I realized its evil hurting other things to satisfy myself, its no different from what the people I hate did.
I've had my own issues too, before I was sadistic I remember I was very angry at some certain people for evil things they did, I was really lonely because of them, still am because of the outcome of the forced isolation, they ruined me my childhood, disconnected me from any opportunity I had to be surrounded by others for their sick reasons, never had any connections to community, failed when I tried to, still fail until today, I couldn't grow socially and emotionally because of that, feeling empty and lost because of it too. Annoying thing is those people are now acting like they did nothing, I try being nice to them but I don't even like seeing them. Now I don't feel angry towards them, I'm just angry at everything.



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28 Feb 2015, 10:38 am

heavenlyabyss wrote:
The funny thing is we kill insects all the time. Most of us don't give a second thought to it. Doesn't make it right. There's a difference though if you are actually getting enjoyment out of it.

Generally speaking, the majority hate people who enjoy causing animals / humans to suffer. Even insects, though the hatred will be less. AFAIK insects don't have the biological equipment required to suffer, so a sadist could be wasting his time torturing them. People will attack such a person for the way they feel about killing as much as whether or not they've killed. Logically it seems pointless to get wound up about what's going on between somebody's ears, but once those sadistic feelings are known, the understandable fear is about what those feelings might drive that person to do next. It's an immediate, powerful emotional response.

Have you seen the TV series "Dexter" ? It portrays an extreme case of a sadist channeling his urges into the torture and execution of murderers who either have no compassion or are sadists themselves. I'm not recommending it as a career for you 8O but some kind of harmless, destructive special interest might help to take the pressure off, and reduce the chances of society attacking you. It's also interesting that people's feelings about dangerous sadists are actually very sadistic, the only difference being that it's only sadists they want to torture.



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02 Mar 2015, 3:53 am

Zajie wrote:
ToughDiamond wrote:
Recently? That's strange. It was removed from the DSM years ago, and was only ever in there for research purposes.

When I was talking about myself because I thought I had psycho tendencies the counselor said I'm sadistic, angry, full of hate, detached.
heavenlyabyss wrote:
Do you think you are a sadist?

That is an incredibly harmful label to put on someone if it isn't accurate. Do you like the label? I think a true sadist would like the label...

I kinda like it because its part of who I am but I wouldn't mind it going away.
I think I am because I feel pleasure after hurting something like a plant or insects or people or animals, I used to keep killing ants and bugs for no reason and sometimes laugh at it and didn't realize its wrong until few days ago I did it at school and a friend saw me and shouted at me for doing it and said that I'm evil, those days I have been having thoughts of twisting a cat's neck, always liked punching people, I like the sound of bones breaking or an insect crushed, felt happy when my brother's pet died and found it pleasurable looking at the animal's dead body, wanted to put a ketchup on an ant I nearly killed because I thought it would be fun or nice to see it struggling under it. Now I realize those things are bad and evil and might make me turn into a serial killer or a criminal one day so I would never do them again but that doesn't take away the pleasure I get when I see those things happen, example: I like seeing ants attacking a bug or eating away its dead body or an animal's.



yes you're essentially a sadist by your own description. Which is fine, but please keep in mind that your enjoyment isn't reason to hurt others. If you want to hurt insects have at it. But please do not hurt people.



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02 Mar 2015, 11:12 am

Gzac95 wrote:
Zajie wrote:
ToughDiamond wrote:
Recently? That's strange. It was removed from the DSM years ago, and was only ever in there for research purposes.

When I was talking about myself because I thought I had psycho tendencies the counselor said I'm sadistic, angry, full of hate, detached.
heavenlyabyss wrote:
Do you think you are a sadist?

That is an incredibly harmful label to put on someone if it isn't accurate. Do you like the label? I think a true sadist would like the label...

I kinda like it because its part of who I am but I wouldn't mind it going away.
I think I am because I feel pleasure after hurting something like a plant or insects or people or animals, I used to keep killing ants and bugs for no reason and sometimes laugh at it and didn't realize its wrong until few days ago I did it at school and a friend saw me and shouted at me for doing it and said that I'm evil, those days I have been having thoughts of twisting a cat's neck, always liked punching people, I like the sound of bones breaking or an insect crushed, felt happy when my brother's pet died and found it pleasurable looking at the animal's dead body, wanted to put a ketchup on an ant I nearly killed because I thought it would be fun or nice to see it struggling under it. Now I realize those things are bad and evil and might make me turn into a serial killer or a criminal one day so I would never do them again but that doesn't take away the pleasure I get when I see those things happen, example: I like seeing ants attacking a bug or eating away its dead body or an animal's.



yes you're essentially a sadist by your own description. Which is fine, but please keep in mind that your enjoyment isn't reason to hurt others. If you want to hurt insects have at it. But please do not hurt people.

I know, I also remembered that even in my religion its not allowed to hurt living things. I stopped hurting things, if it comes to my mind I push it away.



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03 Mar 2015, 12:50 am

Are you Hindu? I am glad you realize that your tendencies don't give you the right to hurt others. My unprofessional opinion is you have sadistic tendencies, but probably aren't a true sadist, and certainly not a psychopath if you feel bad for insects.

In life you will be presented with situations that will make you full of rage, you'll want to hurt someone, but remember that you hurting them could forever change yours and their life for the worse. But just leaving the situation and calming down will at most stress you out and anger you for a while.

Of course I am not a psychologist. So take anything I say at face value.



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03 Mar 2015, 9:40 am

Gzac95 wrote:
Are you Hindu? I am glad you realize that your tendencies don't give you the right to hurt others. My unprofessional opinion is you have sadistic tendencies, but probably aren't a true sadist, and certainly not a psychopath if you feel bad for insects.

In life you will be presented with situations that will make you full of rage, you'll want to hurt someone, but remember that you hurting them could forever change yours and their life for the worse. But just leaving the situation and calming down will at most stress you out and anger you for a while.

Of course I am not a psychologist. So take anything I say at face value.


I'm not hindu, its not like I feel bad for them I just feel like a horrible person who kills for entertainment and I also feel fear when I do it because its disliked to kill an insect if its not botherig/harming you or if you don't need it in my religion. I find it hard to feel sad about creatures other than humans, but sometimes I might be sad for animals particularly sheep or those animals.
I know that I don't like hurting others especially if they have nothing to do to why I'm angry. I know that but I don't how to express my anger without making a problem, least is I would be shouting at that person who made angry which I think would be embarrassing for me so I don't do it.