Apparently People With Aspergers Don't have Friends
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http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2013/10/1 ... aspergers/
Odd I recall hanging out with my friends a week ago, boy am I a fool.
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I found another list by the same... individual... yesterday that really ticked me off. I find this one even more offensive. I hope it's okay to post it here, since it's the same author.
http://mailbag.penelopetrunk.com/2012/1 ... aspergers/
That list is heavily based on stereotypes, like we're always nice, incapable of insulting anyone on purpose or lying, completely incapable of both reading faces and interpreting tone of voice (never mind that we usually get some, and personally I would be weirded out by someone speaking to me monotonously as she suggests). And apparently we see jokes as little lies. I have more problems reading expressions than the average person but I can read some, and I''m rather good with interpreting tone of voice, and the rest isn't true for me at all. But the most "impressive" point on a list of "impressive" points, is number 6. If anyone told me to shut up or they were done talking to me, I would be offended. It's fine to not want to hear more about a subject, but show me respect when stopping it!!
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The description wasn't entirely awful, but yeah, I have friends as well. I have trouble keeping more than say, three friends at a time, and I can't communicate every day like they would like. It just doesn't strike me as something that is necessary to be friends, and I also get overloaded with all the social energy needed for that. I've lost a lot of friends because of that.
I would sometimes go an entire week without calling my ex when we were still together and he was living in Florida. I just don't feel the need to be that attached to someone. My ideal person to spend life with would be someone who I could just say to "Hey, we won't be talking much for a few days, I'm going to <--insert study, reading, doing some project here-->" and who would also be someone that wouldn't mind sleeping in different rooms most of the time and having a lot of quiet time. I wonder if that will ever happen. Haha.
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http://mailbag.penelopetrunk.com/2012/1 ... aspergers/
That list is heavily based on stereotypes, like we're always nice, incapable of insulting anyone on purpose or lying, completely incapable of both reading faces and interpreting tone of voice (never mind that we usually get some, and personally I would be weirded out by someone speaking to me monotonously as she suggests). And apparently we see jokes as little lies. I have more problems reading expressions than the average person but I can read some, and I''m rather good with interpreting tone of voice, and the rest isn't true for me at all. But the most "impressive" point on a list of "impressive" points, is number 6. If anyone told me to shut up or they were done talking to me, I would be offended. It's fine to not want to hear more about a subject, but show me respect when stopping it!!
Most of those are true for me, but 3, 4, and 5 irk me.
3: Don't change your personality for me. If you naturally speak in a manner that upsets me all the time, perhaps we shouldn't be friends.
4: I dislike a lot of comedy and "jokes" because I think they're stupid and I don't understand how they're funny. It's not that I'm so dumb I can't figure it out. With that said, on rare occasion I find comedy I really like, like Your Grammar Sucks.
5: I've actually been called a great listener, and people who I don't even consider friends consider me theirs because of this. I like listening if it is important and someone needs a "shoulder" if you will. I don't enjoy listening if it's a topic I find boring or monotonous, or if I already know what you're telling me.
I also hate being told to "shut up". But I did specifically tell my sister a few days ago that if she's annoyed at my incessant ranting on my interests, to tell me that she is done talking to me or else I won't know when to be quiet.
**Edit: Oh, and I CAN insult people on purpose if I want to as well. lol
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Also according to her we don't understand the concept of annoying.
NO, we understand the concept fine, many of us have difficultly understanding when we are being rude.
Aspies have sex with their partners because it's a theatrical concept.
Hornyness and attraction we are incapable of apparently(sarcasm)
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Hornyness and attraction we are incapable of apparently(sarcasm)
Oh yeah, that one too.
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http://mailbag.penelopetrunk.com/2012/1 ... aspergers/
That list is heavily based on stereotypes, like we're always nice, incapable of insulting anyone on purpose or lying, completely incapable of both reading faces and interpreting tone of voice (never mind that we usually get some, and personally I would be weirded out by someone speaking to me monotonously as she suggests). And apparently we see jokes as little lies. I have more problems reading expressions than the average person but I can read some, and I''m rather good with interpreting tone of voice, and the rest isn't true for me at all. But the most "impressive" point on a list of "impressive" points, is number 6. If anyone told me to shut up or they were done talking to me, I would be offended. It's fine to not want to hear more about a subject, but show me respect when stopping it!!
I read that and wow, I'm glad you bought that article to my attention, it's worse for us than the one I put up. Being told to shut up though doesn't really upset me because I say things that get on my family's nerves a lot so I'm used to it. And the last half of number two is true for me as well I'm bad at sugar coating for others.
The one thing that ticks me off the most however is 5, 3, and 4. 5 because I love to listen to others, I wouldn't be making Let's Plays in my spare time if I didn't. 3 because I hate monotony in general. 4 because I just think most forms of humor in America suck. I'll watch an anime for my humor fix before I watch a sitcom.
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NO, we understand the concept fine, many of us have difficultly understanding when we are being rude.
Finally someone understands me!! !! XD
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Hornyness and attraction we are incapable of apparently(sarcasm)
Oh yeah, that one too.
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Don't you you know? Aspergers is a fake condition (more of that sarcasm)
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I think Penelope is a little bit silly-- she is overgeneralizing from herself to the rest of the demographic.
Nevertheless, a lot of what she says is true of ME.
I do have friends...
...but it's hard for me to interact with more than one of them at a time. I CANNOT, say, throw a party and invite all my friends, because I cannot provide the social grease that lets people who are not friends in their own right socialize and have a good time. So I can have the two guy friends who hang out all the time and were already friends over...
...or I can have the other guy, a SAHD of two boys who happen to be friends with both of my middle kids over...
...or I can have my BFF, her ill-disciplined kid, and her poorly-trained ginormous Labrador over...
...or I can have my other female friend over...
...but I can't cope with ANY combination of them. EVER.
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http://mailbag.penelopetrunk.com/2012/1 ... aspergers/
That list is heavily based on stereotypes, like we're always nice, incapable of insulting anyone on purpose or lying, completely incapable of both reading faces and interpreting tone of voice (never mind that we usually get some, and personally I would be weirded out by someone speaking to me monotonously as she suggests). And apparently we see jokes as little lies. I have more problems reading expressions than the average person but I can read some, and I''m rather good with interpreting tone of voice, and the rest isn't true for me at all. But the most "impressive" point on a list of "impressive" points, is number 6. If anyone told me to shut up or they were done talking to me, I would be offended. It's fine to not want to hear more about a subject, but show me respect when stopping it!!
I agree it was over generalized but I wonder what else can the person tell us when they are done talking to you or don't want to talk anymore? I wouldn't tell someone to shut up. There is a guy I have to deal with at work sometimes and he just starts talking and I don't want to listen. I want to play my game or read and there he is yammering away. He cannot seem to see I don't want to talk by what I am doing so I don't feel obligated to listen. I would like to say "I don't want to talk, I want to do this." "I don't want to listen" "I'm working, I don't want to talk." But I don't know the polite way to tell him to be quiet. But thank goodness he isn't around often and I come into work at 5 instead of 15 minutes early so that problem is solved now. Now about when I am working and he sees me and starts talking and I don't want to listen. I still can't say 'I don't want to listen, I'm working" because I don't know the polite way to do it.
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Odd I recall hanging out with my friends a week ago, boy am I a fool.
You're doing autism WRONG!!
Stop it!
Get it RIGHT!!
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I am either spoken loudly over (not even told they are done with me), or asked if I am ret*d. It happens repeatedly to where I am genuinely bothered.
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Well that was a ridiculous thing to read....I mean seriously. I like the idea of friends and plenty of adults have close friends that aren't their spouse....also not so sure having a job in itself is always a great thing, I also do not think i would enjoy a lonely job if I were able to work. Clearly that person likes to generalize.
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