Is this true?
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Anyone who is on the autistic spectrum, has normal or above normal intelligence, and can speak normally since infancy , is Asperger.
no,not automaticaly.
they might have mild classic autism and gained most speech after four years old,they might have the highest possible iq in the world-theres no minimum or limit to iq in classic autism.
its also possible they might have pddnos/ atypical autism, people who keep saying all of these labels dont exist anymore are american centric and dont realise the ICD exists to and hasnt yet changed [new manual coming out next year].
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To add onto KingdomofRats' explanation, no delays in speech is a trait of Aspergers, but the others aren't. Intelligence is based on the person, not the diagnosis and varies between individuals. In fact, as KingdomofRats pointed out, you could still have PDDNOS with those traits if you don't match up with other Autistic/Asperger traits.
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Oh, yes, "NOS", I forgot about that one.
Besides NOS, I thought that by definition classic autism with an IQ above 70 is called "high functioning autism". If not, then how is "high functioning autism" different from "classic autism"?
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1. Classic autism: ASD with repetitive behaviors and social difficulties and IQ below 70
2. High functioning autism: same as classic autism except IQ above 70.
3. Asperger: same as High functioning autism except no speech delay
4. NOS: same as any of the above except without repetitive behaviors, or same as any of the above without social difficulties
Well, at least this is my understanding.
Anyone who is on the autistic spectrum, has normal or above normal intelligence, and can speak normally since infancy , is Asperger.
no,not automaticaly.
they might have mild classic autism and gained most speech after four years old,they might have the highest possible iq in the world-theres no minimum or limit to iq in classic autism.
its also possible they might have pddnos/ atypical autism, people who keep saying all of these labels dont exist anymore are american centric and dont realise the ICD exists to and hasnt yet changed [new manual coming out next year].
Are you sure? I was told that the ICD-11 isn't coming out until "around 2017".
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Anyone who is on the autistic spectrum, has normal or above normal intelligence, and can speak normally since infancy , is Asperger.
no,not automaticaly.
they might have mild classic autism and gained most speech after four years old,they might have the highest possible iq in the world-theres no minimum or limit to iq in classic autism.
its also possible they might have pddnos/ atypical autism, people who keep saying all of these labels dont exist anymore are american centric and dont realise the ICD exists to and hasnt yet changed [new manual coming out next year].
Are you sure? I was told that the ICD-11 isn't coming out until "around 2017".
It is scheduled to come out in 2017. It was first scheduled for 2012, then 2015 and now 2017
http://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/ ... lease-date
http://www.who.int/classifications/icd/revision/en/
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well no, some people can have a Lower I.Q, and in Specific areas of the I.Q it can be very very low, but it other places it can be very high or average.
and a diagnosis can Vary, my friend is diagnosed as PDD-NOS, but he couldn't talk until he was 4, over all he's extremely mild now.
i had a normal development of speach and were still not sure where i am on the spectrum because of my bad verbal skills.
typically, those who can speak at a normal developmental level are diagnosed typically with Aspergers and those with a delayed speech are diagnosed as ASD or PDD-NOS. but i feel the I.Q thing is complete horse s**t, not everyone on the spectrum is a genius or average.
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No one has ever said that a person on the spectrum is a genius or average. In fact, the original version of "autism", now called "classic autism" have IQs below 70 almost by definition; the idea that an autistic can have an IQ above 70 is the new thing, and has expanded the autistic spectrum to "high functioning", or if no speech delay "aspergers", or if not complete ,"NOS".
I think about one third of spectrum people have IQs below 70, and most of them do not have savant skills.
http://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/ ... lease-date
http://www.who.int/classifications/icd/revision/en/
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2. High functioning autism: same as classic autism except IQ above 70.
3. Asperger: same as High functioning autism except no speech delay
4. NOS: same as any of the above except without repetitive behaviors, or same as any of the above without social difficulties
Well, at least this is my understanding.
That's my understanding as well.
I still get a little confused about terminology and labels though. I don't believe in defining anyone by a label, but unfortunately, since labels are still used at times, I just want to make sure I understand what the labels mean. If someone is nonverbal and severe symptoms in general but has normal or above average intelligence, then they are high functioning, right? Would they be labeled as severe high functioning? And if a person has mild symptoms but a below 70 IQ, are they labeled mild low functioning? Or are there no destinations made like that? Before wrong planet, I thought that low functioning and high functioning just referred to the severity of autism symptoms
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2. High functioning autism: same as classic autism except IQ above 70.
3. Asperger: same as High functioning autism except no speech delay
4. NOS: same as any of the above except without repetitive behaviors, or same as any of the above without social difficulties
Well, at least this is my understanding.
That's my understanding as well.
I still get a little confused about terminology and labels though. I don't believe in defining anyone by a label, but unfortunately, since labels are still used at times, I just want to make sure I understand what the labels mean. If someone is nonverbal and severe symptoms in general but has normal or above average intelligence, then they are high functioning, right? Would they be labeled as severe high functioning? And if a person has mild symptoms but a below 70 IQ, are they labeled mild low functioning? Or are there no destinations made like that? Before wrong planet, I thought that low functioning and high functioning just referred to the severity of autism symptoms
There is no "low functioning autism". If the IQ is below 70, it is "classic autism". I think the term "high functioning" came from the surprise people had a few decades go when they learned that not all autists had very low IQs. You can be severe high functioning, or mild classic, etc.
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